Dear Sirs,
I am aware
of Laurence Godfrey vs. Demon Internet Ltd [1999] as I am aware of how it has
subsequently been used by those able to bully and intimidate in order to
restrict people's freedom of speech. What we have here is an alleged defamatory
posting. It is not for your clients or yourselves or me for that matter to
decide if it is defamatory under the law or not, but for a court to decide
that. Of course it is cheaper and easier for your clients to bypass the need
for any due process of law and use intimidation and threats against people that
have no direct involvement but do have an ability to silence people from sites
they run than to actually pursue the person who made the original post. I
therefore find myself unable to comply with your threatening "requests"
at this time. Secure a successful prosecution against XXXXXXX himself for
defamation as the person who actually MADE the post and I will be more than
willing to comply. Provide evidence that you are in the process of such an
action against XXXXXX and I will remove the post until the COURT decides if the
posting is defamatory or not. If such lack of kowtowing to your demand on my
part leads to action taken against me then so be it but I think we all know
what is going on here.
I am aware
that under the precedent set by Godfrey vs. Demon Internet Ltd [1999] I may
have some potential liability just as I am also aware than any potential
damages would relate to the degree of alleged damage done to your clients
reputation. So far the thread concerned has received 273 'views' of it. This
number of course includes your clients themselves,
yourselves, myself and may well also included multiple views from single
individuals. So maybe a couple of hundred people have seen this post. Of course
if you were to pursue legal action against me, merely as the person who runs
the non profit bi-communal site in question and not the person who made the
post, it would undoubtedly become a newsworthy event as Godfrey vs. Demon
Internet Ltd did with millions of people globally becoming aware of the 'spat'
between your clients and XXXXXXX.
The
precedent set by the Laurence Godfrey vs. Demon Internet Ltd was in my personal
view a bad decision and maybe it is time for a new case and a new precedent. It
also has several key differences to this case. Firstly in the Godfrey vs. Demon
Internet Ltd case Mr. Godfrey had no way of identifying the poster and thus
pursuing action against him directly. In this case and despite your use of
inverted commas round XXXXXXX's name and the implication
this is not a real name, your clients KNOW exactly who XXXXXXX is and how to
contact him. In fact if the various websites and posting I have seen since
receiving your letter are to be believed your clients have already tried to use
threats of court action against him to silence him, rather than court action
itself. This makes things very different than in the Laurence Godfrey vs. Demon
Internet Ltd case at least to my layman's eyes. Also it is not even clear to my
layman's eyes that what has been posted is defamatory. It seems like opinion to
me and is separate from the factual sections of the post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation
"In
many legal systems, adverse public statements about legal citizens presented as
fact must be proven false to be defamatory or slanderous/libel. Proving
adverse, public character statements to be true is often the best defense against a prosecution for libel and/or defamation.
Statements of opinion that cannot be proven true or false will likely need to
apply some other kind of defense. The use of the defense of justification has dangers, however; if the
defendant libels the plaintiff and then runs the defense
of truth and fails, he may be said to have aggravated the harm.
Another
important aspect of defamation is the difference between fact and opinion.
Statements made as "facts" are frequently actionable defamation.
Statements of opinion or pure opinion are not actionable. In order to win
damages in a libel case, the plaintiff must first show that the statements were
"statements of fact or mixed statements of opinion and fact" and
second that these statements were false. Conversely, a typical defense to defamation is that the statements are opinion.
One of the major tests to distinguish whether a statement is fact or opinion is
whether the statement can be proved true or false in a court of law. If the
statement can be proved true or false, then, on that basis, the case will be
heard by a jury to determine whether it is true or false. If the statement
cannot be proved true or false, the court may dismiss the libel case without it
ever going to a jury to find facts in the case."
Exactly how
you would show in court that the statement "I believe that without
unscrupulous lawyers in
Yet another
difference between the Laurence Godfrey vs. Demon Internet Ltd case and this is
that the potential accused here (me) is not a commercial company that makes
profits from it's "publishing" activities but is in fact a private
individual running a totally non profit site for the benefit of Cypriots and
those interested in Cyprus. This may or may not matter in law but it would
matter in terms of any potential media coverage a prosecution by your clients
of me as the "publisher" of the alleged defamatory post would
inevitably lead to.
I look
forward to not receiving intimidating "requests" made by yourselves
or your client in the future.
I strongly
urge you to consider resisting the temptation of taking easy money from your
clients for sending out such pointless emails based on apparently empty threats
and instead advise them in their best interests to either settle this spat
between themselves and XXXXXXX or prosecute HIM for defamation rather than
start a pointless and self defeating campaign of actions against people like
myself.
In the mean
time all of my rights are reserved in regards to your clients and yourselves,
whatever that actually means.
Yours
faithfully
Erol Ziya
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